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Rich Seidner's avatar

I hope you find this of interest.

Religious tolerance came to America **originally** from the Dutch, not the Puritans.

The Island at the Center of the World, by Russell Shorto, is a history of the first Dutch colony in America. Based on 12,000 contemporaneous handwritten Dutch documents (legal, dairies, and so on) from the founding of that colony until its transfer by treaty to the English in 1664. Along with the Treaty for the Peace of Westphalia (1648).

The treaty that ended Dutch control of New Netherland did not itself spell out a broad rights charter, but the colony that passed to the English had been shaped by Dutch practices of religious toleration and relative openness, which stood in contrast to Puritan New England. In New Netherland, the Dutch allowed a diverse population to live under a policy often described as “liberty of conscience,” meaning people could practice other faiths privately even though the Dutch Reformed Church remained official.

Dutch tolerance in practice

Dutch policy in the colony was pragmatic: the authorities wanted trade, settlement, and stability, so they tolerated a mix of Protestants, Catholics, Jews, and others rather than forcing strict uniformity. That made New Netherland more open than many English colonies, and later British rule in New York initially continued some of that approach rather than imposing a hard religious settlement. The Dutch reputation for freer expression also extended beyond religion, since the Republic was known for comparatively broad freedom of thought and speech, especially for exiles and dissenters.

Contrast with New England

By contrast, Puritan New England aimed to build a godly society with stronger religious discipline and less room for dissent. In practice, Puritan colonies often treated disagreement as a threat to social order, and dissenters could be expelled or punished rather than accommodated. So when the English took over New Netherland and it became New York, the colony inherited a more pluralistic Dutch legacy than the more doctrinaire Puritan model found in New England

Ivor Tiefenbrun's avatar

Wishful thinking cannot address real issues. Religious history has been bloody and only separation of religion from other aspects of governance and values enabled our coexistence. The new religion of Islam embodies all facets of life and as we see everywhere is very different from from previous belief in many ways, not least its insistence on conquest and enforced submission. Without any likely possibility or precedent for change, it cannot be argued that past British experience, tolerance or our values and laws can apply or build bridges with an incompatible absolutist and settled belief system, so leaving us all with a troublesome dilemma to say they least. Good will, blind or misguided optimism are unlikely to change the established required pattern of submission and deadly enforcement. Hope for any compromise or unprecedented change of great magnitude can only be misguided delusion after fifteen hundred years. Can you or others address this issue which is the cause of the widespread public anxiety you describe

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