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Sam's avatar

A large and complex issue, glad to see you discussing it. I would agree that there is at least a culture element to this. I remember children at my (north London, local comprehensive) secondary school being told by their parents that school was a waste of time, “never did anything for me” etc, undermining any aspiration in their children and downplaying the importance of education in making a more interesting future for themselves. This was almost exclusively amongst my white working class friends and acquaintances, and met with slight disbelief by the rest of us, white middle class like me, and the various “ethnic minority” backgrounds of all of the rest of us. This sort of culture of self sabotage obviously itself has complicated roots, but is also a very hard carapace to crack when trying to encourage kids to engage and try hard to reach higher…

I realise anecdote is not evidence, but I do remember this as quite a common experience.

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Hi Fraser, thanks for covering this issue, it is one very close to my heart. As a kid, I grew up on a council estate, did O-Levels, A-Levels and then studied at Birmingham and also UC Berkeley in the late 80s. I then eventually went into teaching in Greater Manchester. I have taught tens of thousands of kids in secondary schools, most of them white, most of them working class.

Growing up on a council estate - and mine was really nice - there's a definite culture, a language, an experience that seems to me very different than middle-class world. The secret to successfully inspiring white working class kids is to speak to them in their “language.” The same language I spoke as a kid. Now, how many male, white, working class teachers are there? Rare at primary school, still pretty rare at secondary, as rare as unicorn shite at University.

I would really welcome an opportunity to have a chat with you about this - I have a lot of insight to provide and I can tell from what you write and your Ch 4 documentary on benefits that you have a genuine interest in these issues that originates from a place of compassion. I don't share all the same politics as your good self, but one skill you learn living on a council estate is how to get on with people based on how they are rather than how we might sometimes wish them to be.

Keep fighting the good fight and if you are so inclined, please get in touch.

Kind regards

Tony

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